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As it wasn’t your dream, that changes things. You’ve worked with dreams so you know that dreams need to be carefully interpreted.
That they are almost never to be taken literally.
Your friend doesn’t.
It’s possible that your friend dreamed that she did something bad, but it made her feel good, in which case it is definitely not a good idea to even try doing it for real.Dreams show us things to make us think about them, never to tell us what to do. We have free will, to decide what we want to do. Dreams may suggest something but it is up to us to think carefully about the consequences.
For instance, some of my dreams lately show me running away as a means of solving my problems, and in a way, that is indeed a practical solution, but with a bit more thought, the proper interpretaion is simply that it is showing me that’s what I want to do *metaphorically*. In reality, I really don’t want to move, I love my current location, and need to find a way to keep it.
Hi Emma, that’s an interesting thought.
Would whatever made you happy in the dream actually be possible in waking life? And do you think it would actually make you happy?
What makes me happy in dreams is mostly flying unaided!
I had a similar experience some twenty years ago. I don’t remember any specifics about the dream, and I only remember it at all because I was getting used to the notion that dreams almost always reflect the mood of the preceding day, and this stood out like a lighthouse. Shining bright against the darkness of the previous day. Personally, I think such dreams are sent to remind us that there is such a thing as happiness, and to lift our spirits in times of crisis. I don’t think there was anything in it that I could have done in waking life, or I would probably have tried it, and so remembered more about it. If it were to happen now, I would analyse it for symbolism and so forth but I didn’t know enough about dream analysis back then.
Apparently the reverse can also happen, when one is in especially happy mood, but I have not experienced anything of that side of the ‘shadow side’.Ok, first the odd dream, I don’t remember the whole of the preamble, so I’ll skip to the vivid ending:- I’m with this lovely guy, but he has an extra ‘appendage’ like some kind of alien snake thing. I’m terrified of it, and the man notices, and says, ‘Oh! are you scared of this?” and taps it on the head. It shrinks down into a bump, and a final tap makes it disappear altogether. I wake up with an idea in my head that, to cut a long story short, solves my worries about an inevitable future problem.
Perhaps that is why I’m having so much stuff about glasses and seeing things clearly or not. I’m not sure why I’m still getting it tho. Perhaps the dream about the little girl driving is the key? :-
There were a lot of people at some kind of gathering, but we need to leave now, and there aren’t many cars. Mine is one of them, and people including two girls, Sara and her sister, get in. Someone reminds me I have Alzheimers (I don’t, but I am pretty forgetful irl, so I don’t argue the point) and say ‘I can still drive tho’ and go to get in the car, keys in hand. But I go to the passenger seat side; even as I realise my mistake, I see the two girls in the drivers seat, and the car starts moving, so I sit down fast, astonished that I no longer have the car keys. Sarah, clearly can’t steer properly, or reach the pedals. I don’t know how she even got the car moving, nor how we eventually manage to pullover and stop the car before we hit anything, but we do, and I wake up.
Due to this dream not really having a satisfactory outcome (ok, so we don’t crash, but we don’t get anywhere either) I think it’s a good candidate for some dream alchemy, but I’m not sure what would be the best way to ‘go forward’ either literally or metaphorically. Should I trust Sara with driving the car, or should I shimmy over the hand-brake and take control?
The second one, is all about espionage and intrigue. I don’t know how come me and my parents are going to the same conference as a lot of diplomat types, but one of them has an important dossier in his briefcase, which the others want to get hold of or stop him delivering, except they don’t know which one has it, but the ‘spy’ gets wind of this, and hides the briefcase under a big boulder. (Two accomplices lift one end of the rather flat boulder while he shoves the briefcase as far under as he can.) At some point he found a new species of plant and put that in his briefcase too, and I am actually more concerned with rescuing the plant than getting the dossier safely out of the way. I am also worried that the boulder shows that it has been moved as it is wobbly now, but there is some kind of disturbance on the other side of the group, and I use the distraction to get the briefcase out, without being seen. I quickly stash the briefcase in the back of my Dad’s car in a pile of blankets (irl, my car often has a pile of bedding in the back). The dream is almost finished now, except that as we make our getaway, I realise I’ve left my glasses behind. Dad points out that we can’t go back now, and gives me an older pair, but they’re a bit smeary, and I blink and quint as I put them on . . . and wake up to find that I am actually wearing my (regular) glasses!
On reflection, I think this was the dream that I got when I wanted a harder to interpret one, but I really don’t spend much time on ‘incubating’.
Love that sychronicity!
I’ve had a bunch of interesting dreams since I wrote that and my reply that disappeared into the ether.
Some about predictions, some about ‘dream incubation’ and and one suggesting I buy your book(s?).
As I started this thread mentioning dream incubation, I figure this is a good place to write the follow up dreams.In the first one, I am a young boy, wowed by the Scarlet Pimpernel/Richard e Grant’s ability to get rich people to gift him Roll’s Royces. The man is explaining to the boy, how he does it, starting with remembering their names, ‘the key thing is remembering their names, they really love it when you remember who they are’ then keeping notes on them, what they do, what they like, etc. and shows the boy one of those plastic pages that go in a file, absolutely filled with pages of his notes, then, in return for just a simple meal, (but delicious, as represented by one of my dishes, licked clean) they shower him with gifts, particularly Roll’s Royces, which he loves, as does the boy.
Ironically, or perhaps appropriately, I did almost no ‘dream incubation’ prior to that one, but had thought it would be fun to get another dream that would be a bit harder to interpret, and so, fun to write up here, and that’s what I got in return.
All I can think of is that perhaps you are not thinking ‘generally’ enough.
If they don’t connect to specific events in waking life, perhaps those events aren’t as significant as you think.
While it’s true that most dreams can be untangled in the way you describe, there are other methods.
In the dream that you describe in another thread, there is a lot going on, so much in fact, that you are unable to see what it’s all about, and maybe that is what your dream is telling you.I too have trouble remembering the start of my dreams, though oddly enough my recollection of last night’s dream is rather the opposite. I remember the start but not how it ended. I’ll post it when I’ve finished this post.
I can usually remember enough to work on by staying in the same position as I woke up in and thinking, what was I doing, or what happened before, leading up to, the bit that I do remember, and going back a bit at a time.I used to have trouble remembering anything at all, so I’ve definitely made progress.
Sometimes I know I am in my home village, or my husband’s country, but the location in the dream bears little resemblance to the real one, and I often struggle to get to where I want to. I think I have had one or two like that in the last year, but not so recently that I can remember enough to do any analysis on them.
I once dreamed I was visiting my sister in law’s house, only it was nothing like the one I remembered. It was freakily like the one she is living in now, that I had never been to. Oh, and another relative’s house is almost exactly like I had dreamed it. The ONLY difference was that instead of being damp upstairs, as it was in the dream, IRL the lights weren’t working, so it was dark. I got deja vu as I went into the house, and remembered dreaming about it before I had left. I even dreamed about the guy singing and playing a musical instrument, even though I never knew he played anything (or sang)!
Sometimes I recognise a location, but it’s actually ‘somewhere’ that I have never been to IRL. Really weirdly, once when I recognised where I was, later in the dream I realised it was another planet, as it had two moons, silhouetted against a giant pale sun, sadly again too long ago to analyse.
My repeating dream (many years ago up to about 25 years ago) was set in one of my school buildings with a stairwell at each end, but the rest of the school had little resemblance to the real one.Oh Kim! You’ve just unlocked the relevance of the cockerel. It represents my faith, which I am very private about because it is not in line with Christianity, and I do worry about offending strict Christians, so I hide it away, like the cockerels. Once again though, it is the attributes personal to me that are relevant, not the generic ones.
Now that I’ve been moved to post another reply here, I will also post the most relevant interpretation of the mouse. Yes, being small is a generic attribute but it was also small in the dream. The attributes attributed to it are a very small part of my personality, not actually because I repress them, but simply because I am rubbish at scheming/manipulation, and not naturally selfish or mean. I often wish I was though, as I wouldn’t get upset so often if I only cared about myself. i.e. I like these attributes: The mouse is cute. In reality though, these attributes are best avoided(IMO): Should be taken far away and abandoned. So the mouse is representing my attitude to the attributes it represents in the dream.Cintia, you are so right about layers, I think this is the most layered dream I have ever had! I found three myself, and you found three more! The overt meaning is about my view of politics and humanity in general. It is also showing me that I get wound up over things I cannot change. For me this is the principal problem. A possible solution is there too, though; I’m only seeing a small part, I need to look at the wider picture. Looking really wide, in a few billion years we will all be star dust again, the whole planet and the sun included.
Putting myself as the mouse brings out a spiritual metaphor. Mouse is not happy with a mouse sized portion. Putting myself as both the mouse and the cockerel brings out another, that was the subject of another dream some weeks ago.Hi Caroline, yes, every time I get a scam phone call or catch a whiff of some political or economic agenda on the TV or radio, or something like that comes up in conversation.
I only mentioned Mum first in response to Cintia’s post. There is absolutely no exploitation either way, we have an excellent relationship, and always have done. I do need to find an independent source of income, but only because she will not be here forever. Things are finally progressing on that though. I like the interpretation of standing over me protectively but the main issue is definitely my getting wound up over eco-politico shenanigans.
I have had slightly guilty feelings about abandoning Mum in favour of getting on with redecorating my house, and vice versa, for making Mum the excuse for not getting on with it, but actually Mum is fine and very happy that I am getting stuff done.
Hi Barbara, sorry but that doesn’t work for me. There’s no rush anyway. Maybe with someone else’s . . .Hi Alexandra, In the dream, mouse is mean, scheming and selfish, cockerel is placid, enigmatic, amused. IRL mice are a cute nuisance, that need to be caught and taken and released a long way away, cockerels are, well they each have their own personalities, but collectively they need to be put into a shed with sound insulation every night so that one sh***y neighbour can’t make them into an excuse to get me into trouble with the council (for crowing in the early morning). Two are adorable, one I feel sorry for, he’s ill, but carries on like nothing’s wrong, I doubt that he will survive the winter, but that’s what I thought last year too! The last one is a mean PITA that beats up any of the others that it gets the opportunity to, but is very handsome. I don’t think the IRL attributes are relevant here, but I’ll run with it to see if it does bring up anything else relevant.
This dream mouse is not shy or timid (nor am I!), but mean, scheming and selfish, these attributes are all but dead as parts of my persona, not even as big as a mouse. Curiously this exercise is making me realise, I do actually identify with the cockerel; in situations that don’t get me wound up, I am happy to go along with whatever everyone else is doing, although not to the extent of being taken advantage of.The mouse had the main bit of toffee that I managed to get out of the plastic, but was still hungry. Actually attributes associated with mouse being small makes sense too, if I were more selfish, I wouldn’t get so upset at all the injustices in the world but tbh, I’d rather be taken advantage of like the cockerel than be uncaring. I need to find somewhere in between. In that respect, I am indeed reluctant to feed the mouse.
The bit about cocky cockerel, and not being any higher than the mouse etc. doesn’t fit. The cockerel is aware of what’s going on, but is unconcerned. Definitely in control of himself, and perhaps deliberately allowing the mouse it’s evil way. (Though the mouse doesn’t actually get as far as eating his toes.) The cockerel is definitely higher than the mouse, that’s why I can’t see him.
Ah it’s time for bed, but I haven’t written about last night’s dream. In short although there were some really weird aspects to it, in short, I manage to escape all the bad guys, with a companion, who goes back for the rest of us including a cat and the (still living) head of a horse, who escape by flying (a bit like Santa), we all meet up safely, and set about putting the horse together again. (I did say there was weirdness!) In musing on this I realised the element of flying over the bad guys = rising above the scammers and politicians grasping hands.
I like the bit about not seeing the whole picture, I will give that some more thought. Also the way I support myself, well, I don’t actually, I’m very fortunate that my elderly Mum has enough to subsidise me, in return for basic domestic help. This obviously is not a permanent situation, but plans for an alternative source of income are progressing nicely, so my anxieties about what will I do once she’s gone are evaporating nicely.
For me though the key to this is my feelings about the mouse’s exploitation of the placid cockerel. The mouse represents the exploitative minority, and the cockerel, the sheeple that blindly go along with the media/political BS. This is something that really winds me up, so even though I don’t remember anything triggering that feeling in the previous few days, (I’ve been too busy to watch the TV etc) but it does come up a lot so I’m not surprised that I’m getting dreams about it. The problem is what can I do to stop getting wound up over people getting screwed by the system?
This resonates with a dream of a couple of weeks ago, where a really nice guy is lynched for something his evil twin did. Again, those feelings of shock and horror.
I could also describe the scenario in more general spiritual terms, but the problem is essentially the same.
Looking at this latest dream with me as every part of the dream, me as the mouse, what am I hungry for? I am deep down lonely. I guess, in the words of the song, I need somebody to love. But I can’t identify with the cockerel, it’s significant that it’s a cockerel, IRL it was a hen that had it’s toe possibly amputated by rats. The cockerel had that distinct enigmatic calm of the father figure that Has appeared a few times recently. If I am the cockerel though, as well as the mouse, that means I’m scheming to eat my own toes. This resonates with another dream, one that I was sure I had ‘got the message’ of.
Hmm it’s late, I’m off to bed, thanks for your input, I will think on this as I go to sleep, and hopefully I will get something clearer by the morning!This is a very thought provoking question and I’ve been thinking about it a lot. Sure, people I know do make occasional appearances, and a handful of them have made more than one appearance, but even when I have a repeating theme happening, the ‘actors’ are different each time. I’m almost as likely to see someone I’ve seen once or twice on the telly or irl. Quite often animals of some sort feature strongly, but again, rarely do they make repeat appearances. I do recognise certain characters that make fairly frequent appearances, but they are ‘played’ by different people/animals almost every time.
Hmm, well, I have one that I’m stuck on. Last night I had two dreams that I can recall, the first reflects my attempts to move away from excessive perfectionism to ‘good enough’, and I am succeeding in this, but the second was a lot trickier to interpret, and I can’t see any way to resolve it either:-
There is a mouse, and it’s really hungry and there’s no food around at all, until I find a lump of plastic, which I realise contains something. I peel off the plastic to revel something like soft toffee, but most of it is useless, stuck to the plastic, anyway, the mouse is still hungry. There is also a cockerel (at least I assume it’s a cockerel, actually I only see it’s feet, my viewpoint is not much higher than the mouse) the mouse gets the cockerel to stand in a scalding hot pool of water, I realise that the mouse is actually trying to cook the poor cockerel’s feet so it can eat it’s toes! I’m horrified, but the cockerel is oblivious to the heat and won’t move, it seems that it doesn’t really care . . . !
Should I leave it there, or add my insights, such as they are?
